Hamsteren09 Publish time 2009-5-31 01:51

Silk thread

The difference between flat silk and twisted silk.
Here I use Japanese Embroidery Flat Silk as an example:

The silk comes on 60 meters tubes of flat silk. One strand of silk is made up of 12 suga (filaments). For optimum shine the silk is used flat, strands can be split for finer threads or combined if a thicker thread is required. The thread can also be twisted.



The above photo shows a tube of flat silk, a variety of threads, twisted and flat and (laying across the silk) a strand of DMC floss.


The first three threads from the left are all flat silk – half a strand, 1 strand and 2 strands. The next five threads are a regular twist – 1->2, 1->1, 2->1, 3->1 and 4->1 (the first number is the number of strands used to make a single twisted thread, e.g 4->1 is four strands twisted together to make one twisted thread). The final two threads are a 3->1 soft twist and (on the far right) a 1->1 S-twist.



The stitched samples above show the relative thickness of a different number of strands of flat silk and the coverage when used to stitch a foundation.

From left to right: 0.5 strands, 1 strand, 1.5 strands, 2 strands and 2.5 strands.


This sample shows the relative thickness of the twisted threads and the coverage when used to stitch a foundation.

From left to right: 1->1 twist, 2->1 twist, 3->1 twist, 4->1 twist and 3->1 soft twist.

Note that the 3->1 soft twist looks as full as the 4->1 regular twist and gives fuller coverage even though it uses fewer strands of silk. The tighter the twist the finer the finished thread.

Sanya Bond w Publish time 2021-4-10 23:33

На АлиЭкспресс продается шелк большими мотками, по несколько оттенков. Насколько знаю не крученный

Lane Publish time 2019-3-16 07:55

Its too expensive I'll cry if I can get money to stitch to even try to stitch with real silk

tuanbao2012 Publish time 2019-2-13 16:35

Very nice! Beautiful! Thank you very much for sharing !!!

viky Publish time 2023-12-10 09:14

Thank you very much for the info! Very helpful.

tuanbao2012 Publish time 2019-2-27 18:28

Wonderful, thanks so much!

htsear13 Publish time 2022-2-10 23:13

Following this thread

Knitpurlsm Publish time 2024-4-9 01:20

Thanks for the info!

ddddddddddt Publish time 2009-5-31 02:32

Very illustrative! You are a treasure Hamsteren09!

I haven't tried any silk thread yet, very curious though...

Hamsteren09 Publish time 2009-5-31 20:30

The Japanese Embroidery silk thread is not the normal silk thread that I will use for cross stitch. This is only to show the difference between Stranded silk and Twisted silk.

The silk threads that normally used for cross stitch is Twisted Silk.

csc0312 Publish time 2009-6-1 10:19

Thanks for sharing........

nadinex Publish time 2009-6-18 00:15

I have never tried silks. never knew there were 2 types. thanks a lot for the information :)

StitchAndi Publish time 2010-1-7 03:10

I have used the flat silks for embroidery but not for counted thread work. It feels beautiful to work with

rteixeira63 Publish time 2013-4-25 06:47

Thanks for sharing.

Bleu Publish time 2013-4-27 02:13

where do you buy this Japan Embroidery Silk?
I hvae lots on silk from Maroc, but it isn't easy to stitch

tcca Publish time 2013-4-27 07:25

I'd love to know too, where to get reasonable priced good silk. I have a piece I would love to do in silk instead of cotton since it is very fine (1 over 1 on 32 ct fabric) but I've not used pure silk before and am not sure what a good brand is

Bleu Publish time 2013-4-29 19:23

Found it on midori-embroidery.com. beautiful colors,
but I wanna know other members experience with this
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